Dec 26, 2012 4:00pm EST
off the fiscal cliff, everybody votes to have the tax cuts. everybody gets the political advantage of a tax cut so scared little rabbits don't have to worry about raising taxes. we'll have to get serious. your guys just gave us, it was depressing enough to go out and have two double cheeseburgers and a milk shake. it was awful, and it's about time. we need a plus. we need something to charge up this economy, and getting this done. robert zelic on our board on the campaign to fix the debt, you know, the former head of the world bank, he said america is one good debt deal away from being the dominant economy for the next 25 years in the entire world. >> so you believe it's going town lock -- taking away that uncertainty is going to unlock cap "x" and hiring and consumers to open up their wallet? you think it will make that much of a difference? >> i believe it will. how many other arrows do we have in our quiver? >> there's an optimistic thought. better have another cheeseburger, governor. good to see you, again. thank you. >> good to see you guys. >> let's fix this. >> yeah. wouldn'
Dec 26, 2012 3:00pm EST
. >> not easy because you don't say anything consistent. >> the seeds of the fiscal cliff were planted in 2001 with the ten-year window for the bush tax cuts. secondly, look, you're not going to like this, rick, but the fact is the president has come more than halfway in terms -- he hasn't come anywhere. he's come halfway on 7%. he hasn't come halfway on the other side, the entitlement side, the reform side. we're going to a too light deal that's too small. >> a lot of people are saying he wants to go over the cliff because it gives him more leverage. >> yes. >> his treasury secretary said that. tim geithner said that on cnbc. >> right. >> well, look, i mean, first of all, i don't believe he wants to go over the cliff, but if we go over the cliff, the economic downturn only occurs as others have said in this very segment if we stay over. if we go over and quickly reverse the damage. it's not good. it's bad, but it's a lot better than the recessionary scenario of staying over. >> rick? >> i listened. doesn't change my mind what. are you going to be saying four years from today? >> we didn't exp
Dec 24, 2012 9:00am EST
christmas, of course, still no fiscal cliff resolution. the $500 billion in spending cuts and tax increases start on january 1st unless the white house and congress reach some sort of agreement. we're joined by former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, co-chair of the campaign to fix the debt. and a cnbc contributor. governor, happy holidays. good morning to you. >> good morning, guys. >> so we're sitting here wondering what can be done in the next seven days. even in your role, if you're having to reset expectations. >> sure. i think it's fair to say the campaign is disappointed. we're not going to -- unless lightning strikes, we're not going to get a big deal. we're going to get something that avoid the cliff. kicks the can down the road on the serious issues. the serious issues, the can gets kicked into the debt ceiling. president says he's not going to deal with the debt ceiling. who knows what's going to happen at that point. i think we blew an opportunity in the last seven weeks to really sit down, do something good for the country, do something good for the economy, of our country and